Friday, November 21, 2008

What / Who Are Moreyites?

At Biblical Thought blog there was an interesting question posted in the comments section. The answer given by the BT blogger is very intriguing for me because it shows a little something about the mind set of a disciple of Bob Morey.

What / Who are a moreyites?
Nov 19th, 2008

There is technically no fixed definition for the term "moreyite" given that there are a so few of them. The term moreyite is used to denote a disciple of the teaching ministry of Dr. Robert A. Morey. They tend to display many or all of the following characteristics in varying degrees.

1. They accept the claims and assertions of Bob Morey on his personal and academic background at face value.
2. They unquestioningly accept Bob Morey's claims on theology, philosophy, and history as fact.
3. They emulate and repeat Bob Morey's talking points verbatim in discussions of faith and morals.
4. They (like Bob Morey) condescendingly belittle other Christians that disagree with them and people of other faiths accusing them of changing the subject.
5. They turn away any evidence of wrong doing on the part of Bob Morey always giving him the benefit of the doubt.
6. They disassociate from former church members that find Bob Morey's behaviour to be unethical.
7. They charge any critic of Bob Morey with "slander and gossip" (a Morey mantra) and call former FCC members "disgruntled" and "apostates".

This is just a working definition and description of some of the negative characteristics that these people share. They are also very zealous for the things of God and treat each other as a family when you become part of that circle. They are theologically oriented bunch that have a fire to teach and preach the gospel to a dying world. But once you step outside that circle, things change as outlined point 6.

Moreyites, Are those people who gain an interest and focus in a man.
They are not really there to be an active part of the body.

This is not how the term has been used by those who are no longer in ministry with Morey. Most if not all those who have worked with Morey belong to other churches involving themselves in other ministries. Larry Wessels for instance has a ministry that continues to do apologetics on Islam, Roman Catholicism, and the cults.

Identifying and exercising gifts, being a blessing to those around them, being accountable to God through each other. In the end, when things don’t work out the way they expect, they leave because they are not really interested in the church, which is made up of believers, not a building or any individual man!

This is clearly a false statement by the blogger for two reasons.
1. These people continue to serve God elsewhere.
2. He cannot see into the heart of those who have left FCC and judge their motives.

We are well aware of the fact that we as sinners, wil fail each others expectations, violate each others rights at times.

This by the way is an example of point 3 where Morey tells all his followers that he will fail them...

But we are soldiers in the Army of the King of Kings! We press on together, and we by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, are not those who abandon our brothers! We stand together and reach out as aministry to the world!
Nov 20th, 2008

The phrase "We....are not those who abandon our brothers!" I find ironic in light of points 6 and 7. But we will continue to pray and hope that one day they will realize that we care for them and hope that they will see Dr. Robert Morey for who he is.

Monday, November 17, 2008

They are nothing more than disgruntled, bitter, apostasized morey-haters, said the SLURPEES...

The following was brought to our attention by our friend Ron Hodgman of "True Faith Defenders Blog". Please read the absurdity after Tom N-U asks for a response. Mind you, Tom N-U copied this statement from Jacob Prasch's website. And for those of you who are not in the know, Jacob Prasch is Robert Morey's Kryptonite!

I bet'cha the prophets of Baal' asked that same question of Elijah, "Don't you have anything better to do?"

I find it obscenely comical how morey worshiper Mario Herrera states, "Faith Community OC is thriving..." yet it's been reported time and time again that God's Children are being ushered out of Robert Morey's church in droves. I guess when you're under the spell of thieves and liars, "thriving" takes on a whole other meaning.

Friday, November 7, 2008

Larry Wessels Email About Robert Morey

Greetings to all,

As many of you already know, the previous couple of weeks have been very interesting. Before I get into all of that I'd like to let you know about the informative material from the Apologetics Index concerning "Abusive Churches Discourage Questions." This subject definitely relates to current events & you should find it fascinating reading.

I was planning to send out a general update a few weeks ago but one event after another kept happening that I found myself constantly being delayed. Many of you are already aware of some of the things I'll mention here since I did e-mail some of the goings on to a limited number of you with appended attachments & documentation.

The Fellowship of Independent Evangelicals (F.I.R.E.) has kicked Robert Morey of Faith Defenders out of their organization. The board of that organization issued a statement to all their members citing their reasons why. They have not officially allowed a public posting of their announcement yet but some of the things they mentioned after substantial evidence was reviewed (inside sources say they had at least 11 signed statements from witnesses) were: Morey abused his pastoral authority, badly mistreated people, & refused to meet with the FIRE board to discuss these issues. The FIRE board unanimously asked Morey to resign from their organization which he did. Morey, in his typical fraudulent fashion, put a whole new spin on this story blaming FIRE instead of himself on his website trying to hide the gravity of this situation under the rug from the general public. This is what Morey always does when he is caught red-handed, he just tries to focus blame somewhere else.

Early in October 2008 Morey's "Faith Defenders" filed a "copyright infringement" complaint with Yahoo!.com through their copyright department to have the 13 anti-Morey long version videos we had posted on Yahoo Video removed from the Internet. Morey's "infringement" argument succeeded in knocking our 13 shows off temporarily. I contacted a local copyright specific law firm here in Austin & worked with them to counter-notify Yahoo!.com that this "copyright infringement" argument by Faith Defenders was bogus. Yahoo!.com then gave Morey & his "Faith Defenders" cult 10 days to sue us in court with a restraining order. Of course we were ready to go to court & prove our case but as it turned out "Truth Seeker" Bob & his band of "Faith Defenders" turned tail & did nothing! Therefore, Yahoo!.com reinstated our right to have our anti-Morey videos re posted on Yahoo Video. At the time of this writing we have uploaded 2 of the original 13 shows: 1. "Does God Love Everybody? Faith Defenders Robert Morey Condemns Himself & 2. The Christian & Conspiracies: Faith Defenders Robert Morey Falsely Accuses #2. To see these just go to Yahoo Video & once on their homepage search "Robert Morey" Hopefully over the next week or two we'll have all of the rest of them back up. By the way, you can still see all 13 long version shows on Google Video right now since they remained online the entire time. This waste of time incident with Morey's bogus "infringement" garbage reminds me of the 1990's when he fraudulently took away my home telephone number by sending the telephone company a fake letter supposedly by someone else (this is all documented here). One of our 58 shows dealing with Morey on Youtube also covers this. By the way, our Youtube shows on Morey have now had over 11,000 viewings!

Morey is currently circulating the rumor that he may have a "life threatening" illness of some kind. Morey's record of being a fraud & con man is well established. That's why I am able to put all this stuff on the Internet & shout this stuff about Morey from the mountain tops because everything I'm saying about his fraudulent activity is true & documented & he can't do a thing about it. Now why in the world would I believe a man like this when he says he has a "life threatening illness"? What better way for a con man to get sympathy & support. If I say "I'm dying" then everybody feels sorry for me. Don't believe this man unless he can come up with verifiable medical proof that has been validated by independent sources. Has he told anyone what this "life threatening illness" specifically is? So far the best evidence I've heard for Morey being ill comes from my dear friend Bob L. Ross who simply told me in a short e-mail that Morey "looks" like he is ill based on some of his latest photos.

Finally, I did report Morey to several law enforcement agencies for criminal investigation. I sent my complaints via e-mail & certified mail & I have my signed certified receipts back from all of them. I filed a criminal complaint with the Internal Revenue Service for all the financial mischief Morey has been up to at his "Faith Community Church" & his "Faith Defenders" outfit, not to mention his dealings with others, I reported Morey for mail fraud to the United States Postal Inspection Service, I reported Morey to the Federal Bureau of Investigation on a wide range of issues, & I reported Morey for criminal investigation to the Orange County District Attorney's office. The Orange County District Attorney wrote me a letter suggesting I report Morey to the Police Department where Morey resides (Orange, California). I'll get around to doing that soon. The District Attorney's letter closed with the encouraging statement, "we intend to consider your complaint further. If it is determined that legal action by this office is appropriate, you will be contacted."

Anyway, you can see that October was a busy month.

Stay close to the Lord Jesus Christ in these evil days,

Larry Wessels
1Peter 3:15

Below is a picture of the letter sent to Larry Wessels mentioned above.

Sunday, November 2, 2008

A Morey Voting for a Muslim President Obama?

Ruthanne Morey Reid (Robert A. Morey's daughter) has Voted for Mr. Barack Hussein Obama! Read her hilarious reasonings:

Guess the apple really doesn't fall to far from the tree after all!

According to Poppa Morey, daughter Ruthanne Morey Reid has just voted for America's first Black Muslim President of these United States!

Visit here to hear audio of "Dr." Morey calling Mr. Obama a Muslim!

Dysfunctional family atmosphere anyone?