Monday, November 17, 2008

They are nothing more than disgruntled, bitter, apostasized morey-haters, said the SLURPEES...

The following was brought to our attention by our friend Ron Hodgman of "True Faith Defenders Blog". Please read the absurdity after Tom N-U asks for a response. Mind you, Tom N-U copied this statement from Jacob Prasch's website. And for those of you who are not in the know, Jacob Prasch is Robert Morey's Kryptonite!



I bet'cha the prophets of Baal' asked that same question of Elijah, "Don't you have anything better to do?"


I find it obscenely comical how morey worshiper Mario Herrera states, "Faith Community OC is thriving..." yet it's been reported time and time again that God's Children are being ushered out of Robert Morey's church in droves. I guess when you're under the spell of thieves and liars, "thriving" takes on a whole other meaning.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

my comment is this: I ran across your site when I googled "Apologetics Index" and saw you use it. Please consider this:-- Apologetics Index is a website run by a man who has had a warrant out for his arrest for several years, as he fled the U.S. after having committed an act against his niece--all this information can be culled from HIS site, sort of, and you can google his name if you really want to know what he did. I really take issue with this man and his site-- he claims to be a Christian but is a fugitive in Holland--yet he sets himself up to judge minsitries and churches in America--while he is far removed and unable to even meet with or investigate fully that which he feels so free to give his personal judtgements on. I would really like Christians to know that if you are going to research groups, do it from a site that is run by a person with some intergrity and interest in not misrepresetning others.

Gadfly J said...

Thanks for the "Apologetics Index" info. we will look into it. Where exactly did you find our website on Apologetics Index? Can you supply a link? To my knowledge we've never appeared on that site.

Ron Hodgman said...

The information that Apologetics Index has on Robert Morey can be verified by other sources. If Apologetics Index has a link to "The Saint Augustinian" it is a recent change but it does link to other websites. As far as the fugitive from USA justice, I have yet to find it by a Google search but that doesn't mean it isn't out there somewhere on the Web. I have never used information from this website without verifying it to be accurate.

Ron Hodgman said...

Yes, it was updated to include a link to "The Saint Augustinian".

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/f12.html

The link is to the listing of Robert Morey weblinks on "The Saint Augustinian" blog.

This was not present the last time I checked about two months ago, but it could have been longer. I do not recall the exact date that I last read what it had to say about Robert Morey.

Ron Hodgman said...

It appears "The Saint Augustinian" weblink was added to Apologetics Index on August 15, 2008 per this information:

About this page:
Robert Morey and Faith Defenders
First posted: Mar. 1998
Last Updated: Aug. 15, 2008
Copyright: Apologetics Index

Ron Hodgman said...

In all fairness the name "The Saint Augustinian" appears no where on the "Apologetics Index" but a weblink to the Robert Morey links on "The Saint Augustinian" does appear. Therefore this website in no way has any ad for this blog but it does have an ad for Muslim dating which is rather funny. A pdf of what it has to say about Robert Morey exists here.

http://www.geocities.com/ronald_hodgman/rd_fd_ai.pdf

This anonymous posting sounds very Morey-ite. The pdf clearly shows the muslim dating ad.

Ron Hodgman said...

I have researched the sex offense claim and it may be true. What I have found is here.

http://truefaithdefended.blogspot.com/2008/11/anton-and-janet-hein-hudson.html

Ron Hodgman said...

So Gadfly J, are you a Morey-ite per Mario:
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Moreyites,

Are those people who gain an interest and focus in a man. They are not really there to be an active part of the body. Identfying and exercising gifts, being a blessing to those around them, being accountable to God through each other.

In the end, when things don’t work out the way they expect, they leave because they are not really interested in the church, which is made up of believers, not a building or any individual man!

We are well aware of the fact that we as sinners, wil fail each others expectations, violate each others rights at times. But we are soldiers in the Army of the King of Kings! We press on together, and we by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone, are not those who abandon our brothers! We stand together and reach out as aministry to the world!

Nov 20th, 2008

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I didn't correct the spelling mistakes. It is copied and pasted from Biblical Thought. For a group that claims to hate Campbellites; why do they sound like they are members of the International Church of Christ? From what I have read about FCC politics, not only is FCC not Reformed but it is questionable it is a true Christian church. Frankly, FCC is a cult!!!!

Your comments, if any on Morey-ite = Apostasy Support Group I thank God that I have never been a member of this so-called church.

Gadfly J said...

Mario’s definition is quite telling actually…

Mario and I started upon Mr. Morey about the same time, so when he claims that Morey-ites “are people who gain an interest and focus in a man” he’s exactly right! This is exactly what our Ex-Calvary Chapel group did. We all (including myself) idolized everything Robert Morey. Only difference now is, I heeded God's call out of there.

They are not really there to be an active part of the body… Funny! I was there to be an active part of the church body right beside Mario.

Identfying and exercising gifts, being a blessing to those around them, being accountable to God through each other.

Interesting tid-bit: I’ve got a video of Mario stating, that I (GadflyJ/Joey) was one who exercised my gifts, and was a blessing to him and the body of Christ. Mario & I were also accountable toward one another at one point. How quickly we forget!

In the end, when things don’t work out the way they expect, they leave because they are not really interested in the church, which is made up of believers...

This statement really shows Mario's ignorance. He and the rest of the Slurpees just don't get it. Oh, I was interested in the Church just not interested in a lying, unrepentant, thieving pastor. Things didn't work out how the bible teaches that a pastor /Elder should be... above reproach (1 Timothy 3).

This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a overseer, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God?); not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. ~ 1 Timothy 3:1-8

Sorry, but when I read 1 Timothy 3, it just isn't a reflection of Mr. Robert Morey.

We are well aware of the fact that we as sinners, wil fail each others expectations, violate each others rights at times...

Just another Morey-ism. Let me forewarn you that I'm going to sin against you and violate your will, so when I do you won't be surprised. The "sinning against you cycle" is never broken, why? because I warned you I'd violate your will. Basically, one has a legitimate reason for sinning against his brother. "I told you I would..."

...are not those who abandon our brothers! We stand together and reach out as aministry to the world!

This is hilarious! I guess turning your back on absolutely ever person who has left FCC, by deliberately not talking to them (as was told to you by your precious pastor) is not considered abandoning your brothers in Christ! FCC does in fact stand together, so long as you abide by Morey's Law! If you do not abide then you will be given over to Lucifer! Kangaroo Court anyone?

FCC is not Christ centered as they would like you to believe, it's Morey centered, always has been, always will be...

Ron Hodgman said...

What is the deal with the Faith Defenders building in Irvine, CA? It appears to be still listed for sale and it has a foreclosed look as it is now an abandoned building with a large fence around it. One cannot even park in the parking lot because they have blocked all of the entry points into the parking lot with a fence. Is the building about to be sold but not yet sold or is it a foreclosed property held by the lender? I drove down to Irvine today to look at the building and I was surprised at what I found.

Ron Hodgman said...

Someone may be making a lot of money on the sale of the old Faith Defenders building in Irvine, CA. It appears it will be a hotel.

http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2008_4th/Nov08_BuildCentral.html

It appears they will destroy the existing Faith Defender's building and replace it with a 4 story hotel.

The City of Irvine notice sign appeared to indicate something so I was searching the internet to figure out what it implied.

There will be a zoning meeting on this proposed project.